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Actions Speak Louder Than Words Sometimes~ The Conclusion of the 2nd Presidential Debate

Oct 8th, 2008 by BohemianMoon

Such a sore looser. Pity, really.

Posted in Election 2008, Home, Life, Money, Money, Money (or not!), Relationships, Things I......well........LOVE, Uncategorized | 13 Comments

13 Comments to “Actions Speak Louder Than Words Sometimes~ The Conclusion of the 2nd Presidential Debate”

on 08 Oct 2008 at 5:14 am#1RKwrite

McCain’s distain was apparent during the debate when he referred to Senator Obama as “that one.” I thought he had more class than that. Both debates proved who had class, and seemed to be presidential. It’s time for a change!
on 08 Oct 2008 at 5:28 am#2BohemianMoon

#1 RKwrite~

I agree. He once again was condescending, rude and petty in demeanor as well as many of his comments………………not to mention troll like!

Time for Change, Indeed!
on 08 Oct 2008 at 1:10 pm#3marie

here’s a quote for you from last night;

“when president bush came into office our debt was 5 trillion dollars. now it is over ten trillion, that’s almost double” Obama

brilliant isnt he?
on 08 Oct 2008 at 1:44 pm#4ThirtyWhat

Wanna know what struck me about the debate? Afterwards, Michelle and Barak walked around and shook hands with everyone in the audience. Meanwhile, Cindy McCain stood with her hands firmly clasped behind her back. She didn’t shake ONE hand.

Yes, I know the story … earlier in the race, someone shook poor Cindy’s hand SO hard at a rally that it broke her arm. If it’s true, that woman must have the bones of a bird.

In any case, she looked like an elitest germaphobe last night. It was the cherry on top.
on 08 Oct 2008 at 2:15 pm#5SuzanneS

McCain seems to be realizing that Obama is pulling ahead in the battleground states, so he’s taking his anger and frustration out on the man, instead of being gracious.

Last night showed to me that McCain is not the man I want handling sensitive negotiations with foreign leaders. We’ve had 8 years of a cowboy handling diplomacy, a ‘maverick’ isn’t going to improve the mess we’re in.
on 08 Oct 2008 at 3:21 pm#6Ellen

Oh, I missed that last night. Surprisingly, none of the news programs I watched afterwards picked up on it either.
They sure were all over “that one.”
Well, let’s hope the right guy wins: Barack Obama.
on 08 Oct 2008 at 3:35 pm#7GreatLakesMom

McCain continues to surprise me in these debates. I expected to see someone more…let’s just say in the past (not this year) he seemed more intelligent. He realizes that he is behind in the polls and is pulling out the stops with sophmoric actions….not looking at his opponent, calling Obama “that one”, Palin referring to Obama in speeches as Barack Hussein Obama in attempts to link him to terrorism perhaps. I realize that Obama is considered wealthy now but I would rather have a president who has experienced hard times help us out of this horrible economy that someone who has so many houses he can’t even remember how many.
on 08 Oct 2008 at 4:55 pm#8Sandy

Gee…. funny about perceptions. I felt that McCain beat Obama hands down on substance. Obama resorted to untruths bigtime.. he seems to have so much to hide…. associations with homegrown terrorists, racist minister, priest, and financially dishonest associates as Rezko. Not to mention very weak on experience… and you all want him to handle this financial mess, which he in large part contributed to– being the lawyer for the group Acorn, and instructing them on tactics to get banks to offer these subprime loans that caused this whole calamitiy. You people had better check out the facts. This man Barack Hussein Obama (yes, that IS his name, why shouldn’t it be used???) scares the hell out of me.
on 08 Oct 2008 at 5:10 pm#9Joanne

I’ve read Michale Moore’s guide to the 2008 Election (he is factual though his spin is one-sided). He gives an example of McCain’s hair-trigger, for lack of a better word, violent temper. I’m paraphrasing here: at a state dinner in another country a States Man made a comment McCain did not like and the Maverick reached across the table and grabbed the other by neck… You that guy dealing with Saudis? Putin? Kim Jong-Il? Scary stuff.
on 08 Oct 2008 at 10:25 pm#10Joyce

I am an Obama supporter, just wanted to say that first off. My comment is that I don’t think McCain snubbed Obama and denied him a handshake. If you watched the end of the debate, the 2 men clearly met at the middle of the stage, shook hands, put arms around shoulders, etc., probably said good job or some such. Remember when Brokaw couldn’t see his prompter and politely asked them to move aside? That was the after-debate handshaking session. So there was no snub in my opinion. For what it’s worth.
on 10 Oct 2008 at 2:05 pm#11Karen M

Just need to vent here. Watching the morning news and seeing the volatility in the stock markets. Pure emotion driving this now. Lots of people scared of losing their savings and cashing out. Let’s see our president announced that the American banking system will collapse unless $700 billion is provided to rescue it. Did anyone in that god forsaken administration stop to think what would happen to the world financial systems if they went around proclaiming “We have a weak financial system” or “Our financial system is on the verge of collapse”. How reassuring is that when people are already on edge? Way to keep a calm head about things Bush. Ironic that financial markets improved the day that the House DIDN’T pass the bail out. Now that the bail out is passed we are in the greatest financial crisis since the Great Depression.
on 11 Oct 2008 at 1:27 am#12K.C.

This is off-topic, but did anyone hear the financial advisor, Susie Ormand, on Oprah a couple of weeks ago? I had to pick my chin up off the floor when I heard her advise millions of viewers, (how many millions of viewers does Oprah have?!), to “pull out” of certain types of investments. (I refuse to repeat what was said because I feel it was wholly irresponsible.) But, seriously, think about that–If only a small percentage of her viewers acted on this, it would have a catastrophic effect on that particular type of investment. People in powerful positions–even celebrities–should be extremely cautious about doling out financial advise to the American public. Unbelievable.
on 11 Oct 2008 at 2:40 am#13BohemianMoon

#12 K.C~

I didn’t see her on Oprah, as I haven’t really watched Oprah on a regular basis for years, but I have seen her on Anderson Cooper and Larry King Live very recently.

I am unsure what investments that you are speaking of. On both AC and LKL she clearly stated that if one needed their investment money in the next 5 or 10 years or so, and that investment money was in the stock market proper, then they should pull out, but if one’s window was longer, then stay in and eventually they would most likely get a return on her investment due to dollar cost averaging, and I agree. She also stated to continue to fund one’s 401k, again if you you have time on your side.

While people pulling out of the market in droves has disastrous effects on the market, what are people supposed to do? Most stocks have fell so greatly that people who are trying to salvage their money by selling are getting what they can and will also “enjoy” a capital loss on their taxes, which does not really soften the blow, but at least it is something. I personally have lost in the market over the last year, but time is on my side some what. I did sell some stock in mid September for extra funds on a down payment on a truck. Those particular stocks were down a good 60% from last year when I sold, and now, just a couple of weeks later, they are down almost 95% from their 52 week high. That is pretty scary for people who have money in stocks which they may need in the very not too distant future, that they are loosing more and more on a daily basis.

Obviously people who have time on their side should not sell as there is no real loss of anything until one sells, and if people have any extra cash, actually, at this time with companies that have strong and solid fundamentals, they can buy stock at bargain basement prices.

I was watching Anderson Cooper this evening, and they stated that there is institutional buying and personal buying taking place even though the market didn’t seem to reflect that today.

I don’t even know if you were talking about stocks, but that is my impression of that issue at this time.

But if you tell me what investment, we can discuss it.

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